Caregiving a Journey of Heart and Spirit: Stories of Hope with Althea McIntyre

 Althea McIntyre joins host, Rayna Neises, in this episode. She shares her perspective on the connection between caregiving, faith, and personal growth. They delve into the rich tapestry of caregiving, sharing insights from their own experiences with their fathers. From the intense demands of high-need periods to the tranquility of more stable times, exploring the full spectrum of emotions and responsibilities that define the caregiver's role.

Contemplating the impact of creating significant moments, such as Althea's life-changing adventure to Aruba alongside her father, which have the power to bring immense happiness and satisfaction to the caregiving journey. Also discussing practical ways to adapt activities to maintain engagement and connection, such as creating a garden driving tour for a loved one.

The episode ends with discussion about the deep spiritual and personal change that can come from taking care of someone else. Through caregiving and experiencing loss, we often recognize the presence of gods in our lives and face the challenge of replacing them with the one true God.

Althea shares her expertise in spirit-led sales and explains how combining faith with business skills can bring success. She also invites listeners to join her upcoming five-day challenge.

This episode combines resilience, hope, and the enduring spirit of human connection, providing a source of inspiration for caregivers on their own journeys.

Chapters

• 0:01 Caregiving Challenges and Perspectives
• 11:17 The Surprising Gift of Caregiving
• 20:38 Caregiving Blessings, Finding Joy

Transcript

[00:00:00] Rayna Neises: Welcome. This is Rayna Neises, a host of A Seasonal Caring Podcast where we share stories of hope for family caregivers. I'm so excited to introduce you to my friend Althea. Althea Mc McIntyre is a business coach, a spirit-led sales coach, and the author of an upcoming book, Spirit-LED Sales, How to Partner With God in Your Sales. She helps establish Christ-centered female entrepreneurs, trust God, own their value. 10 times their sales revenue in just four moves by partnering with the Holy Spirit. Althea has been coaching professionally since 2005, before working as a coach, she worked as a corporate CPA for nine years. She received her coaching, training and certification from the Coaches Training Institute and has a Master's in Organizational Development with an emphasis in Leadership Development from Loyola University in Chicago. When she's not working, she spends time with close friends, family ministers in dance, indulges in the latest fashion trends, works out, reads and travels internationally. You can learn more about Althea at www.AltheaMcintyre.com. Welcome, Althea. I'm so glad to have you here today.

[00:01:10] Althea McIntyre: I am so . Honored to be here. Thank you for having me.

[00:01:14] Rayna Neises: Well, tell us a little bit about your caregiving season and what it looks like for you.

[00:01:19] Althea McIntyre: My caregiving season. Well, I'm gonna share my first caregiving season, and that was with my father. In 2000, I came back home to the Chicago area after living in DC for nine years 'cause my father had been diagnosed with a terminal disease congenital heart failure

[00:01:38] and my caregiving responsibilities really. Started around 2003 with him at the time, from 2000 to 2003, he had 24 oxygen, so there was one up in his bedroom that he slept with and there was a canister downstairs, and then he had a little one that he carried. And he was retired and he was able to function on his own, but soon I would take him to his blood thinner appointments. . ' cause he was on Coumadin. And then he progressively became worse where it was the in and out of the hospital. You know, those, those visits where it's like he's out and then you talk to a friend and, and, and you're like, I'm back at the hospital. And they're like, wait, I thought he was out. Oh yeah, he was out, but he's now back in.

[00:02:26] So it was that whole season and I remember there was a period. Where it would be. I had taken a sabbatical for my corporate position. I was going to school full-time and I was getting my coaching certification. I Think I was also teaching, yeah, I was part-time teaching as an adjunct professor, but there was a period where I would drive to the hospital, be there for 12 hours drive home and then sleep for 10 hours.

[00:02:53] I did that whole cycle. Right. So. That was at the . The, you know, the challenging periods, but there was other times that I would find really fun things for us to do. And you know, any place like Sam's Club became one of his favorite place. Any place where he could be with the family, but be on the scooter, right?

[00:03:12] Like, so we knew like the Targets and the Sam's Club where he could get out and about because he was on the scooter. So for that season compared to the season I'm in now as I've caregiving responsible for my mother, it was relatively short. A short and intense, I wanna say about two years. He, he passed June 9th, 2005.

[00:03:40] Rayna Neises: It is so weird how sometimes we. even talk ourselves out of thinking we're caregiving whenever we're in those seasons because it's this high need and then it's not. It's just being a daughter and hanging out and enjoying the fact that you were close to him again, but then that high need rises again. And it's so unsettling because you don't know when the next hospital visit's gonna be. But at the same time, you kind of enjoy those lulls in between and you kind of forget that, that it's even a big demand on your life. So it definitely can be really different than someone maybe that has a long-term situation, that's has needs that are growing, more slowly. I think those can kind of creep in a little bit faster.

[00:04:22] Althea McIntyre: Yeah. And that would describe e even though I shared with you this podcast was gonna be about my father, that would be describing my caregiving responsibilities that I've had with my mother since his passing. It took me a really long time to accept and acknowledge yes. And I even say I have caregiving responsibilities.

[00:04:42] I still don't fully own that I'm a caregiver because I think of PI still associate . Like my mother I think of, of some of my friends whose parents have Alzheimer's and you know, that she, they have to bathe them and feed them and all of those things. So it's so, so what you're saying is correct

[00:05:02] Rayna Neises: Yeah, and I think sometimes we have to realize that just because the season looks different doesn't mean it's not still a season of caring and really stepping into that support that we need no matter what the season looks like, and just making sure that we're being supportive. So definitely important and can be hard with those. I think The comparison, is really different 'cause I look back on caring for my mom and I wouldn't have said I was a caregiver at all, but every time because I was a teacher, every time I had any time off school, I was trying to get my dad outta the house. I was spending, a lot of time at their home.

[00:05:41] Every Wednesday and every Saturday I was there trying to get him to engage in life and go and do what he wanted to do and stay with my mom. So I was definitely caregiving, but I wasn't carrying the full weight of it. Like when my mom was gone and my dad then needed help, there wasn't somebody there to support him. So that was my sister and I.

[00:06:00] Althea McIntyre: Absolutely, absolutely. That, that is a hundred and a thousand percent. And, and that's a lesson, you know, for the listeners . To acknowledge. It's interesting how we fall into the comparison game, even in the caregiving, and we don't acknowledge what we're doing. And, and I, and that's also why, because we don't acknowledge it when we're sharing.

[00:06:22] And this is my story when I'm sharing with others who have, don't have any caregiving responsibilities. Similarly, like my, my father's family has a long life. He has a 90 plus year old brother who lives on his own, painted his whole house on his own last year. He has a 90 plus year old sister who still lives on her own. All faculties, all hearing aids. So oftentimes when I'm . I have been sharing with my cousins, they don't understand. Like, well, I remember a cousin saying to me, so what do you actually do? And you know, that could that You're laughing right To every caregiver that is like, no response, right? No response.

[00:07:07] Well, the, the, because there's no context of what we do. And for my mother who is 85 young, five year young-ish, and who looks. 20 or 30 years junior of that. A lot of people are like, well, I don't, what, don't understand what is really involved. anD caregivers, you know, we're too exhausted to explain it.

[00:07:35] we're just too tired. , we'll explain it with other caregivers. We'll explain it to other caregivers, but non caregivers were too exhausted to explain it to you.

[00:07:46] Rayna Neises: Exactly. And that, you know, they, when they ask that question, you know they really don't have a clue and it, it's probably not even gonna help to explain it because it's so many levels. There's so many things from the grief that we need to process to the physical demand that is there to run two households, to anticipate the needs of those things. And then to try to just do the checkup and be appropriate in the relationship. There's an appropriate relationship. I've recently started calling it learning how to child. You're childing. Oftentimes, when we become parents, we need to learn about parenting, right? It's not natural to know how to child as an adult child to an aging parent. It's a whole different role, and until you have to step into it, most people don't have any concept of what

[00:08:36] 

[00:08:37] Rayna Neises: so.

[00:08:37] Althea McIntyre: so interesting. And, and one thing, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trusting that the listeners are gonna appreciate this. I remember having to take not so much at my, during my father, I was on sabbatical for most of the time, so, and I was much younger and I, I naturally have a lot of energy and I had even more energy.

[00:08:55] But for my mother, when I would take to the doctor's appointment and you would think, oh, I have a, you know, she has two morning appointments and which always takes a lot learning in the morning, and I had in my mind that I would just spend the rest of the afternoon working. I would come home and work at three.

[00:09:11] No ma'am. Yeah. Rayna's looking at me like, what, what? Why'd you think you were gonna do that? No, ma'am. That was it. It was a wrap. It's a whole day. And people never understood that because the emotional. The emotions around it, you know, the amount of energy you're exerting to be gentle, to be patient, to, to, to be direct, to keep people focused.

[00:09:36] And then the grief that you're going through as you're seeing this. It's very interesting. both of my parents were worked full-time and sometimes I often say my mom forgets what like working full-time was. It's like, no, she had a full-time job , but she seems to forgotten. And so you know, just finally I had to give myself that grace, like that's it for the day.

[00:10:03] Right? That's it the good.

[00:10:05] Rayna Neises: And that's the key right there. It's giving yourself grace. It's learning to realize, okay, this is more taxing than I think it's going And then just give yourself the grace to be done for the day, to do what it takes to take care of yourself, to recuperate, to process, and to find your energy again. Tomorrow is another day. But so many times we as caregivers see all of these needs and we're just this compassionate group of people who do have a lot of energy and want to engage. And so we often don't extend that grace to ourselves to really be able to acknowledge this is hard and it's hard on levels that we don't even realize.

[00:10:43] Althea McIntyre: Absolutely.

[00:10:45] Rayna Neises: So do you have a favorite story you'd like to share with us?

[00:10:48] Althea McIntyre: I do. My favorite story is when I planned my father's and really our last family vacation to Aruba. So as a family, it's a family of four. I have an older sister. We're a traveling family, so we, we traveled every summer we went on vacation. My mom loves to say there was a summer that we didn't have a vacation.

[00:11:08] I was like, oh, I'm taking my vacation and I. Called her friends up in different states and I went on my vacation. 'cause that's the culture I grew up in. Well, in when my father . Yeah. Like we traveled. So when my father was diagnosed with, congenital heart failure in 2000, his older sister had a birthday party in Jamaica, we're Jamaican, and he couldn't go, and that's devastating very family oriented. And he just said like, I'm not traveling anymore. In fact, he had planned a trip to go to India with my mom because he envisioned him, my mother and him retired and traveling, going out to eat. Well, I found out, and I don't remember. Where, but Aruba is the best place for people who have disabilities to travel.

[00:11:51] And so I was able, like I'm telling it's the best place. So one of the reasons it's a short flight. Number two is they drive on the same road that we drive in the states. Number three, you can use US cash dollars. And number four, they have a really good medication. Like, so I was able to find, like, that I was able to rent the, the oxygen canisters, all the things that he needed, and so I created the plan.

[00:12:19] And got the whole talent and convinced him. And we went to Aruba and it just opened up his world. And this in, i I, I can't remember if it was in 2003 or 2004. It just opened up his world that had really shrunk . And he just, we had such a good time you know, all of us there. The last family vacation.

[00:12:43] And I remember like, he was, and you know, of course I had ordered the oxygen on the plane. So he was all set and, was able to find the distilled water and all of those things. When we came back, I remember being in our doctor's appointment 'cause he was on Coumadin, a blood thinner and he was like, yeah, we're going to London next.

[00:13:01] And I'm like, who's taking you? He's like, you are. And I hadn't realized that I really opened up his world of what was possible. My dad is, was the, was the type of man that you would talk to him on the phone. And a lot of people were shocked when he passed because his voice didn't change and his joy for life didn't change, but his world shrunk and he made lemon outta lemonade.

[00:13:25] But if you are someone who's traveled all your life and then stopped traveling, it really did have an impact, whether he acknowledged it openly and frequently or not. We at the time, of course, did not know that was our last family vacation. So . That is, that is one of my best caregiving memories.

[00:13:46] You know, we, we create these things and, and I've learned over the years, I do really have that gift. I'm able to create experiences that are caregiving friendly, . I really do. I'm like, my mom and I have different things we and, and I, I said, oh, I, I told someone, I'm like, oh, we're going we're doing our, our garden driving tour and the friend was like, oh, they have those. I'm like, oh no, I created it. We drive throughout in Chicago. They need to have one though. But I have the different places and we drive throughout Chicago and we look at the different pots and yeah, it's our, it's our driving tour and I have, we have a, we have a summer one, we have a spring one, and we have a fall one. And I was like, they really need to have that. Like, because we, we used to do walking garden tours. But that's no, possible. So.

[00:14:36] Rayna Neises: Not an 

[00:14:37] Althea McIntyre: Yeah, not, Yeah. so.

[00:14:39] Rayna Neises: That's awesome. I love the adapting because finding a way to honor their love, whatever their love and their passion is, as we age, adaption has to happen and that's difficult to embrace, to start off with, but to have to give it up all together is just sad. And so I love that you're able to adapt their passions and find ways to continue that.

[00:15:00] I think that's one of the joys that I have in looking back of how I was able to care for my dad. I was able to find and keep him passionate and excited about life by continuing to provide opportunities to do things he loved, not just expecting him to be like everybody else and, I don't know, sit and play cards, whatever it is. 

[00:15:19] Track 1: Yeah. And it's, it's, it's a real, I'm, as I we're talking now, and my mom always tells me, she always says, Althea, are you sure you're in the right profession? I'm . Like, yes ma'am. I'm in the right profession. Are you sure? You're so good with older people? I'm like, oh, no ma'am. I'm sure. But. Gift to be able to do,

[00:15:37] and

[00:15:38] it's a real, you know, Reyna, what I realized, it's a real skill that we all have to have.

[00:15:43] And as you age and you get into your seventh and your eighth and even your ninth decade it, you know what I'm seeing because I'm around a lot of older people. I always say, give me someone's between 75 and 90 and I'm good. Give me someone . It's an under and I have no idea what to do. But it's, it's, it's, it, it takes a different level of energy, right to keep on adapting what you love to do and find ways to do what I see in those different generations because you're also they're also living with multiple losses, right. You know, and so, and, and different types of losses,

[00:16:25] Rayna Neises: Mm-Hmm. yes. I think all of life is about learning how to really process those losses and find those things that God had, the jewels that God has in those losses. But loss is part of life and we would rather it not be but the truth is, it is. And the better that we learn how to adapt and process the loss, identify the loss, I think the healthier we can be. Emotionally, emotion, and even spiritually.

[00:16:52] Althea McIntyre: Oh my gosh, that is so true. Thank you for that. Mm-Hmm, 

[00:16:56] Rayna Neises: I know you're enjoying my conversation with Althea. I think she is a perfect example of childing. She is that person who is not caregiving. She is just being a daughter. She stepping up and being family and caring for her loved ones. And I would say that puts us in the ranks of childing, learning how to be an adult child and support that aging parents. 

[00:17:18] It's tricky guys. And I'm so glad that you're here listening and learning. And I would love to have you share your experiences. If you'd like to be a guest on a seasonal caring podcast, reach out to reyna@aseasonofcaring.com. 

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[00:19:07] Back to our conversation with Althea. So what would be one thing that surprised you most about caregiving?

[00:19:15] Althea McIntyre: I am gonna sneak two in there. I mean.

[00:19:18] Rayna Neises: Okay.

[00:19:19] Althea McIntyre: Honestly, I had no idea the number one is how challenging and fulfilling it is, but really how challenging it is. I mean, it is something else. And then the other thing is. Looking back, what's surprising me is the gift of caregiving for my father. I can say it's a gift. Now, I never knew that my father was my God until he died. So what do you do when your God dies? What I mean is we grew up in going to church, Methodist church and you know, prayer. But I didn't realize that I had made my father, my Lord and Savior. I. So what happens when your Lord and Savior dies?

[00:20:11] Well, that's when I realized and began my personal relationship with the Lord. And I can say here today that if my father hadn't passed, I would not have a personal relationship with my Lord and Savior, our Lord and Savior. So that is a surprising gift in, in the midst of life's challenges and trials as a caregiver.

[00:20:35] Rayna Neises: Yeah, it is difficult. I think it can be The people that we're caring for even caregiving can become a God in some people's lives because that's all they focus on. That's all they pay attention to. But it is interesting that he was in such a role that you, you couldn't even see that that's what he was to you until he was gone.

[00:20:57] Althea McIntyre: Yes, yes. And I can relate to that. I, I lost myself in caregiving, you know, for, for if you're anything like me. And I believe that you are where you experience fulfillment from caring for others. My mom tells me stories that the counselors would always say, Althea stayed behind from this person who fell off. Like, that's just my role and I really experience fulfillment. And so I lost myself in that role because it was providing fulfillment. But also at the same time I was losing myself. And so it's it's something, it's something else. It's something else.

[00:21:38] Rayna Neises: Definitely, God uses it in so many ways to help us to become more like him, is the way I always think is, Lord, what is it in this process? How can I be you? How can I be your hands and feet? And it's beautiful the way that he does it, but it's. Oftentimes a little painful, isn't it? having

[00:21:58] Althea McIntyre: That's a good way to describe it. That's a good way to describe, yes, it is a little painful. Yes. Mm-Hmm.

[00:22:05] Rayna Neises: SharE with us a way, one way that God showed up for you in your caregiving? I.

[00:22:09] Althea McIntyre: Hmm. You know, what I'm realizing now is I haven't been blessed yet with a special, someone, a partner in life, and I haven't received the blessing of being a parent, but what I do now see . Is that I am blessed with not looking like what I've been through, and I'm not, and I'm blessed with not looking like what I'm going through.

[00:22:35] And I really have embraced that and see that it's a blessing. And that I, I have still the, the joy of the Lord is my strength. And so. That's, that's, that's, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[00:22:54] Rayna Neises: He is faithful even when he's not listening to our directions. That's the way I say it. so good. So what would be one thing that helps you to live content, love well, and care without regrets?

[00:23:07] Althea McIntyre: Recently. yaina, it's been worship. I have been

[00:23:11] 

[00:23:12] Althea McIntyre: enjoying such deep times in worship and really listening to, you know, and it, it starts with listening to worship music and, I'm listening to worship music 'cause I fall asleep. Sometimes I'm, I'm just, I am, you know, in worship. soMetimes I'm worshiping while walking or worshiping while I'm working. But it has . Brought me in such a deep presence with the Lord and really seeing and worshiping not the God for who, what he's done for me, but for who he is.

[00:23:55] I honestly feel like I've shed . Like a couple years . It's just been fantastic. It's been really fa, I feel like I'm 10 years younger. The more that I worship, the more that I'm getting that living water. And so it's, it's really helping me live a life with no regrets because it's, it's shifting. Hey, let me, let me just be real honest.

[00:24:21] I'M was a year ago today, I was in the depth. Of caregiver burnout and caregiving stress. And I remember saying, God, I don't know how you are going to use this. I really don't know how you're gonna use this. And I was seated at the sit seat of bitterness, and I was filled with regrets as I was approaching.

[00:24:48] My 50th birthday and I remember thinking, how did 10 years go by? I remember being in Thailand, celebrating my college roommate and best friend's birthday at 40, and I remember saying there was things that I wanted to focus on in this next decade and whether it was, you know, getting better at salsa dancing or, you know, I just remember these things and here we are, I remember saying, if I'm not married by 50, I'm gonna have a fabulous 50th birthday party. I'm gonna get a custom dress, it's gonna be amazing. And I'm approaching it. And yeah, we're not, none of that's, none of that's the radar. None. In fact, let's just go there. In fact I'd just been someone that I was dating had just dump me via text. I mean, it was like

[00:25:41] Rayna Neises: Oh

[00:25:42] Althea McIntyre: Yeah. Yeah. I remember in the midst of it, in that deep, dark place, but the Lord brought me to the scripture where he said he will pull us out from that merry pits. And I and just started to meditate on his word. Through books like Joyce Meyers the Battlefield of the Mind and other podcasts , and getting into worship and get returning back to Sunday school and back to Bible study.

[00:26:14] And I'm like, oh my God, God is so. So, so good. And I don't have regrets. I'm seeing how he's working it all together for the good. I can say that today I can say that, you know, that he is doing a new thing and I can see it, and I'm not gonna consider the things of old, and I'm not gonna remember the former things, so, I, I hope

[00:26:42] that if someone too is, is in the depth of caregiving burnout and caregiving stress, which is a real thing I discovered. . It's real thing. It's a real thing. That's not the end of your story.

[00:27:00] Rayna Neises: that's right.

[00:27:02] Althea McIntyre: It's not the end of your story.

[00:27:05] Rayna Neises: We're not at the end until we're at the end, and that's one of the things, when I think about regrets, I think about, it's not that I've never done anything wrong, it's that I have taken each moment to say, what do I wish was different? And what do I need to do differently this time so that I don't end up where I was last time? And that's where you've moved forward. You've identified the things that really nourish your soul, and you are now holding onto them no matter what. No one's prying them out of your hands, and you're gonna continue to engage in those things that nourish you while you then outflow to others around you.

[00:27:42] Althea McIntyre: Absolutely. And I realize the enemy has such a, you know, he's all about deception. He's a master manipulator. And so I remember at a period I was like, God, what have I done? Like what? You know, I'm, I'm behind , I'm laughing. I really was like, and then, you know, I've accepted, I'm a late bloomer in some areas of my life, but you know what?

[00:28:01] Rayna? What, what has happened? I have a strong relationship with the Lord. I hear voice. I know how trust in the Lord with all of my heart and not lean up to my own understanding. I know my God-given assignment and I'm walking boldly in that and nothing. Nothing, nothing. Nothing, can take that away.

[00:28:23] This joy that I have, it is not of the world. It didn't come from it. And no one can take that away and the other stuff, yeah. That's coming. Yeah. But you know, , I got the, I got the Big Rock

[00:28:37] Rayna Neises: That's right. That's right. Definitely. And he's, the only reason why we can make it through all the other stuff is because of who he is and just who he is. Not all that he does for us, but what he already did for us and what we know he's doing in bringing us to him ultimately.

[00:28:56] Althea McIntyre: Absolutely. Absolutely.

[00:28:58] Rayna Neises: Well, Althea, what do you have one little nugget of truth you'd like to share here at the end? Just encouragement. You've done lots of great encouraging, but anything else stand out you wanna share?

[00:29:07] Track 1: I wanna thank you for this podcast. I've shared this with you before and I will share it again and again. ThIs podcast saved my life and gave me such encouragement during a very . Challenging caregiving day and I, and so I wanna thank you for saying yes. I think I want to thank you for creating a podcast for those who are in a season of caring.

[00:29:32] Who are, were, we can be honest and say, this is really tough. And that's how it saved my life, right? Because I was heard others say what I. felt and wanted to say, and non caregivers were dismissing me. And it saved my life because I felt seen, I felt heard, and I did not feel alone. And so for, for, for all of your community of listeners and, and readers of your book, you're not alone. anD we are not alone. And, and we have a gift because not everyone. can do this work. Right. So, and so I really want that's, it's a thank you. Thank you for saying yes. Mm-Hmm.

[00:30:16] Rayna Neises: Thank you. You can get in touch with althea@altheamcintyre.com. Any other places you want them to connect with you.

[00:30:24] Track 1: Yeah. So for those of you who are ready to partner with God in your sales, you wanna learn how you can . 10 x your sales revenue in just four moves, the Holy Spirit led way. I'd love for you to join us at our next five day sell your high ticket offers challenge. You can go to www.altheamcinture.com/challenge. Maybe it's gonna be somewhere on the podcast. And sign up. Get your ticket today and join us for this transformative, immersive learning experience.

[00:31:01] Rayna Neises: And she has great things to share. So if you're a small business owner and looking to close those sales, definitely check into Althea, look great resources and so much truth and. Challenging truth. So I appreciate so much you being here

[00:31:16] Althea McIntyre: Thank you again for having me.

[00:31:19] Rayna Neises: A sEason of Caring podcast has been created to share stories of hope for living content, loving well, and caring without regrets. If you have legal, financial, or medical questions, be sure to consult your local professionals and take heart in your season of caring.